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Post by JoM on Feb 5, 2008 18:13:16 GMT -1
Has anyone tried the English version of the treeless saddles? What did you think? Fit? Brand purchased? Value for Money? Dancers saddle is not right - I had if fitted about 3 years ago, if not more, and think that he may have now out hulked it!! I was debating buying an English treeless, so I can still show in it, but dont know anyone that has one, or any experience of one. Im not a fan of the western type treeless and i dont like where it seems to put my legs and position. I wondered if the English did the same? Help or suggestions all greatfully received! And if anyone local has one I can borrow for a day - that would be great!!!  But a long shot I know! LOL |
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Post by tinkerdorisalison on Feb 5, 2008 18:56:51 GMT -1
did look at one on the internet a while ago, but then saw the price and even I gulped and thought 'how much'!  sorry, not much help....... I have an SBS if you want to have a go...we're in wakefield |
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Post by greydales on Feb 5, 2008 19:28:36 GMT -1
I have a Fhoenix, which I love and it puts your leg in the right position. It's not technically 'treeless' but the only part of it which is rigid is the back of the cantle, so to all intents and purposes I consider it treeless. It's Dancer's saddle but I've shown Saturn in it and use it for hacking him out, backed Cherry in it, used it on Dan and Toby (!), and schooled Olivia in it inhand. It fits all of my lot, no worries about any of them putting on/losing weight.
I'd never consider another treeless, except that the Fhoenix has now been superceded by the Vogue, which is even more traditional looking and I'm saving up for one ;D
Not cheap but considering the problems I've had with treed saddles and the money I've lost, yes I do regard it as good value for money.
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Post by SuzieP on Feb 5, 2008 21:18:07 GMT -1
The Vogue does look good - and the narrower twist will be welcome to many I would think!
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Post by rachelg on Feb 6, 2008 0:14:20 GMT -1
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Post by nars on Feb 6, 2008 7:56:26 GMT -1
I have tried quite a few and gone back to a Freeform. This time we have the enduro freewest model though as we like the fenders etc given we prefer to ride and compete western. I tried the dressage one they now have and it was very nice and Louistic moved really well in it. I like the narrower twist.
When you say you don't like the western ones, which models have you tried? Bob Marshal and Debra Sibley do good ones(import from USA only) and Ansur have a nice looking one. The barefoot Nevada is comfy, but I am not aware of others that are cut properly for genuine western riding.
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Post by jec248 on Feb 6, 2008 9:52:01 GMT -1
I also have a fhoenix.
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Post by emmadales on Feb 6, 2008 18:02:41 GMT -1
I have the fhoenix, and would recommend them. Like gill says, there expensive but if you work out how much you have lost on saddles that no longer fit etc i think they are worth it. They now do the saddles on a payment plan, which i think is a brilliant idea.
You can alter the fit slightly as you get differnet padding bits with it. I did find it a bit strange to start with but now its so comfy.
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Post by JoM on Feb 7, 2008 18:39:19 GMT -1
The thing is it needs to look traditional or I cant show in it!!!  I think I will have to 'pad up' accordingly for now and wait until they come down in price a splodge! LOL My saddle is just banging at the back. Not all the time - just occasionally it cracks me up the bum! Where do I need to raise it to try and stop it for now!? Its because he has changed shape because of Winter I think! |
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Post by nars on Feb 7, 2008 22:17:00 GMT -1
I think the Kay Humphries Mondial is the nicest looking of all if you want a traditional look with your treeless.
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Post by greydales on Feb 8, 2008 19:00:59 GMT -1
The thing is it needs to look traditional or I cant show in it!!! My saddle is just banging at the back. Not all the time - just occasionally it cracks me up the bum! Where do I need to raise it to try and stop it for now!? The Fhoenix can be shown in? I would think if it is raising at the back, then it is sitting down at the withers meaning Dancer must have lost weight in that area for the saddle to drop. Try a front riser pad |
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Post by rachelg on Feb 9, 2008 1:26:51 GMT -1
if anyone has i photo i would love to see....i have a cheyenne and love it but it would be nice to have a treeless that could be shown in..
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Post by JoM on Feb 9, 2008 7:30:16 GMT -1
Sorry Gill - I thought my friend had a fhoenix - apparently not as hers looks nothing like yours! LOL So are they 'show legal' then? They do look more like a traditional saddle
Re dancer saddle - I beefed him up at the front end last year with a lot of trot work - looked like the hulk - rippling muscles and the lot - the saddle started to bang then - so I send it away for reflocking with the request to raise it at the front - and it was much better - although not resolved. Now it is banging again - so it probably is because he has his sinking winter fat, as apposed to his rippling bicepts and now it is dropping again!
I am looking at those prolite wither risers - has anyone used them?
I may have to save up and invest in a treeless! I hate adding bits to make things fit!! And credit to my back lady - when she came to see D she told me in 12-18 months the saddle wouldnt be right anymore! Grrrr!!
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Post by greydales on Feb 9, 2008 8:11:36 GMT -1
Sorry Gill - I thought my friend had a fhoenix - apparently not as hers looks nothing like yours! LOL So are they 'show legal' then? They do look more like a traditional saddle There are quite a few people who show with them, and have never had a problem. There were at least four of us with them at the Dales Performance show a couple of years ago! You can often get relatively cheaper ones second hand on Ebay, as now the Vogue has come out. It's also worth looking on the EE site in the For Sale section www.enlightenedequitation.com/ee/boards/index.php?board=13.0 |
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Post by emmadales on Feb 9, 2008 10:15:07 GMT -1
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But a long shot I know! LOL
