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Post by nars on Oct 31, 2007 16:26:30 GMT -1
I've had to take Sabina to the vets at Ledstoon Equine Clinic today. We've had some problems over the last couple of weeks and my instinct told me that there was a definite physical cause. the physio confirmed it and so we waited for a week until the vets could fit us in. Sabby is staying for a few days for exercise tests, scans etc . She has a depression on her spine and their is a possibility of kissing spines. Has anyone had an op on their horse for this? It looks like we are in for a long rehab period regardless of the cause.  |
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Post by Debbie on Oct 31, 2007 16:29:52 GMT -1
Oh no!!! Sabby's your three year old that was doing so well too, wasn't she? I do hope the vets can shed some light, and bring her some relief. I think ShiatsuDales had a mare with kissing spines, but I'm not certain she'd had a surgery done. I think it would vary on each case.
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Post by nars on Oct 31, 2007 17:48:02 GMT -1
Hi Debbie,
she 4 1/2 now, but it is the mare that won the East Coast pleasure class in September.
Socks is 3, and it looks like she'll be the one to be shown next year now.
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Post by The Moo on Oct 31, 2007 19:19:13 GMT -1
A horse at our yard has recently had the operation to remove 7 'spines'. He's an ID/tB about the size of a small shed, 17.2 huge.
He had a couple of weeks box rest then a weekish in the field then the owner tried to bring him into work. This came about as she had heard of another horse who was in work, have the op then come back into work with the idea to build up the muscle to aid the spinal stability or rather, not let the muscle go. It does have a certain logic. The other horse came back so well and so quickly everybody was really astounded and impressed.
The big horse literally started at 5mins walk on the lunge and built up by 2 mins a day, after a few weeks it was on the pessoa getting more and more grumpy until it finally took a chunk out of the owners back (a similar incident almost instigated the investigation in the first place). The big horse is now turned away for about 6 months.
Whether kissing spines was the problem in the first place, though it did sit on its manger, and do other odd things with hind sight, and xrays showed them kissing but it loved to work and showed no tension when being tacked up, ridden etc...
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Post by harveydales on Oct 31, 2007 20:48:59 GMT -1
Oh no, poor Sabina! I suppose the scans will show whether it is kising spines or something else. I haven't had any experience of this but I suppose it would explain her recent behaviour. Fingers crossed it turns out to be something easily put right.
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Post by nars on Oct 31, 2007 21:14:46 GMT -1
My instructor has told me that one of her horses had the op a few years ago and the rehab period (correct ground work etc) is around 12mths to get them working properly so they regain full fitness.
Her horse looks great now though.
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Post by Biggerside Benwell on Nov 14, 2007 10:39:12 GMT -1
Sorry to hear that, I have a customer whos horse had the op and was back in full work 6 months later so I don't think kissing spines means the end of a ridden career now like it did 10 years ago. Let us know how you get on.
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Post by nars on Nov 14, 2007 11:25:37 GMT -1
Unfortunately it isn't kissing spines, but a bone spur on the spine and it can't be operated on.
It is causing terrible pain for her and chronic muscle spasms. She will have a period of rehab- physio and probablyspinal injections to see if that works. We do not know at this stage if she will ever be able to accept the weight of a rider again.
She may have to be a brood mare. Goodness help us all as Sabina is a nightmare if she is bored.
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Post by charliedales on Nov 14, 2007 12:50:04 GMT -1
Oh dear, am gutted for you Jacqui, not very good news for her, thank goodness you know now and that you followed your instincts. I really hope her injections and physio help her, will send her lots more healing, give her a big hug from me, nicolax
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Post by Debbie on Nov 14, 2007 13:57:48 GMT -1
Ooooh, that's ....well, yikes! Small wonder she was objecting.  Can she still do groundwork games without injuring herself? Maybe her mind can be kept busy with 'trail riding from the ground'? Obstacles, etc.....rather like agility training with a dog, only with a horse? Does the vet think she'll be able to carry a foal with the placement of the bone spur? She may settle down and enjoy being a broodie. |
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Post by nars on Nov 14, 2007 14:02:39 GMT -1
Debbie, the vet hopes that she will carry a foal, but that would be on the basis she would let a stallion near her. She is dreadful when in season and once her overies are scaned this week and the hormonee tests back she may go on regumate as the herbal stuff suseless for her. She can be dangerous, rearing, kicking etc etc. and that is with humans and horses!
In terms of groundwork, on a good day she is very clever at this sort of stuff and only too happy to show off what she can do. On a bad day, well- enough said.
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Post by harveydales on Nov 14, 2007 15:44:21 GMT -1
Fingers crossed the rehab work helps. So sorry........
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Post by Debbie on Nov 14, 2007 16:02:43 GMT -1
 Oh dear!! You know well enough how good or bad she can be, but do be careful. 'Dangerous' around a horse can have such far reaching affects. Are there any Quarter stallions that you could use for AI?
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Post by Biggerside Benwell on Nov 14, 2007 18:16:11 GMT -1
Really sorry to hear that, fingers crossed for the treatment.
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Post by nars on Nov 14, 2007 21:27:32 GMT -1
Yes, Debbie. There is a lovely one at tThe Mendip Stud in Somerset. Zips Chip Leaguer. I will send her there and if she is good we can get her covered and if not they are set up for AI. He is the European Senior Western Pleasure Champion and I think he would compliment Sabina.
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Oh dear!! You know well enough how good or bad she can be, but do be careful. 'Dangerous' around a horse can have such far reaching affects.