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Post by lancslass on Jun 29, 2006 17:51:13 GMT -1
it states in the schedule that it is preferred if you enter classes under one category.......ie: novice, intermediate, open. dilemma!!!! daniel as you know is now in the intermediates for the ridden, but really should be in the novice for handy pony, dressage [which we do NIL of] and jumping, which again, we don't do very much at all of......infact none this year. any suggestions as to what i should do? valerie? ??
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Post by JoM on Jun 29, 2006 18:06:02 GMT -1
Karen - move up - I will climb in your boat with you! LOL ;D As we won the M&M class on Sunday, I cant enter D in the novice, although I feel we are and that was our 1st ridden class! So, for ridden pony, I will obviously have to go intermediate. But for dressage, and especially handy pony and jumping - we are still, I think very much novice
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Post by lancslass on Jun 29, 2006 18:11:01 GMT -1
you are welcome on my boat any time jo............just make sure you bring your rubber ring and blow up arm bands! lol
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Post by greydales on Jun 29, 2006 19:14:59 GMT -1
Karen the dressage is Prelim 4 for all ponies, and I believe the HP is all the same too? Jumping is higher in the intermediate, but I don't think you have to do all the classes (I'm entering novice but not jumping as Saturn doesn't do jumps yet!). Maybe you could jump the novice course if Daniel is only novice in that? (someone correct me if I'm wrong!).
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Post by lancslass on Jun 29, 2006 19:27:39 GMT -1
if the dressage and hp are the same thats fine.......thanks gill. its more the jumping that worries me, in the way that i don't want to overface daniel when hes not used to jumping on a regular basis. i would be quite happy to have a go over the novice course again tho next question is.......... anyone got a prelim 4 they can lend me!? LOL
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Post by JoM on Jun 29, 2006 19:41:37 GMT -1
PM'd you Karen
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Post by lancslass on Jun 29, 2006 19:48:37 GMT -1
got it jo!
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Post by flintfootfilly on Jun 29, 2006 20:15:49 GMT -1
Karen,
have you spotted that the height of jumps has decreased compared to previous years? The thinking behind this was to ensure that the novice ponies could easily try a very very small course of jumps (no more than 1ft 6, whereas in previous years it's been up to 2ft which has put some people off).
And the intermediate jumping is now no more than 2ft (which is what the novice used to be).... so again the idea was to encourage those who have achieved more in their general riding with their ponies to be able to compete at a higher level but still not feel too daunted by the jumps.
I think, though, that you can still choose what level to enter each class, but you will only get points from those classes which you enter at the level of your ridden show (I think!).
Don't know if that makes it easier or harder to decide!
Sarah
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Post by lancslass on Jun 29, 2006 20:29:20 GMT -1
sarah, does this mean that the intermediate jumps will be the same height we jumped last year in the novice? thanks for all the info too!
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Post by flintfootfilly on Jun 30, 2006 6:52:37 GMT -1
It certainly means that the max height will be no higher than they were in the novice.
I guess what I can't be sure of is just how many of the jumps will be at/near the maximum height, but yes, there certainly won't be anything bigger than the biggest one in last year's novice.
Last year, the intermediate was up to 2ft 3.......... so it's now a whole 3 inches lower.
Sarah
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Post by vjjjebony on Jun 30, 2006 7:57:09 GMT -1
We have this problem every year.
sorry did not answer last night as went to bed early and had first good nights sleep this week!
Yes the jumps have gone down in size this year and the 'intermediate ' is now the same size as the 'novice was last year both for the sj. and the whp.
the handy pony is always the same course for all levels and judged as marks for each section ie. intermediate ponies all get their marks and are judged onthem. so is no harder or easier for any section of pony. we have had novice ponies in their section get better marks than open ones but they are still in the novice section of results.
does that make sence anyone?
in the dressage it is thought that a pony capable of winning a ridden class must be better schooled than a pony who has not. so it has always seemed unfair to let ponies who are better schooled go in with the true novices.
anyway if you go in the intermediate section you should be against ponies the same standard as you! as you should be better than complete novice and not up to open ridden classes.
Valerie. please has this been of any help.
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Post by jay on Jun 30, 2006 10:27:01 GMT -1
I'm going to confuse the matter even more now and ask another question....I'm sorry! Jay and I would like to enter novice ridden, dressage and handy pony (we've not yet been to a show where they let unregistered horses in the M+M, so we've not done one yet). BUT, is it ok to enter the open working hunter and SJ?....its just that we've got the NW counties champs the following weekend where we've got to jump 3ft so if possible I'd like the practice at 2ft6
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Post by lancslass on Jun 30, 2006 10:37:05 GMT -1
valerie, that has been a great help, thankyou very much. sarah, i think we will manage the jumps if they are like last years! LOL
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Post by DalesLady on Jun 30, 2006 12:02:06 GMT -1
Blimey Karen - you can manage it! Daniel is better schooled than Aster and she will have to join you in the intermediate section this year! (Bakewell results). She has never jumped (other than one pole in our school when messing around), has only done 1 dressage test (rushed) and never ever done any handy pony! When are you coming over for a practice? I can arrange a few items of washing flying around, some farm vehicles driving past and a mad collie dog running across the school if you like!
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Post by lancslass on Jun 30, 2006 12:46:43 GMT -1
its not daniel im worried about penny!!!! LOL its me remembering the test! i will learn it before the day [she says! LOL]
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