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Post by admin on Aug 11, 2006 8:29:57 GMT -1
Hi Suzie,
Just want to check. Is it snaffles only in the handy pony, or can we have them in pelhems?
Cheers
Olivia
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Post by pingatedales on Aug 11, 2006 8:45:08 GMT -1
Hi Olivia,
Forgive me for butting in as I know you were asking Suzie, but the only class for which the snaffle rule officially applies is the dressage, which must be ridden in a snaffle. If competitors wish to enter the dressage using any other type of bit than a snaffle then they can enter HC i.e. non-competitively. Classes other then dressage can be ridden in any type of bit.
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Post by chickflick1066 on Aug 11, 2006 9:01:13 GMT -1
Family pony also requires horses in Snaffle bits only.
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Post by admin on Aug 11, 2006 9:27:19 GMT -1
Ahhh it's 'cause I'm a wicked judge and always make any competitors in my handy pony classes ride in snaffles. mwhahahahaha
Thanks guys.
Olivia
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Post by DalesLady on Aug 11, 2006 10:18:32 GMT -1
Are ALL types of snaffles acceptable for the dressage pingatedales?
Sorry to hijack thread Olivia, but while we are on the subject of bits I thought I may as well ask! The snaffle we use is not the simplest one, it is a wilkie which our pony loves.
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Post by SuzieP on Aug 11, 2006 10:29:50 GMT -1
Nothing further to add - any bit is fine.
Pip - I'm going to PM you re other rules. I wouldn't normally allow a rider to use or carry a crop or whip in HP and need confirmation that this is the case for the DPS handy pony comp.
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Post by JoM on Aug 11, 2006 10:43:53 GMT -1
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Post by DalesLady on Aug 11, 2006 10:50:22 GMT -1
Thanks Jo for the link. I think you would be right and it is as I suspected anyway. You can tell dressage is not usually our thinkg can't you?  |
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Post by lancslass on Aug 11, 2006 13:23:38 GMT -1
with the wilkie you have the added advantage of poll pressure, so technically its not a "bog standard" snaffle.
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Post by greydales on Aug 11, 2006 13:42:00 GMT -1
The Baucher also causes poll pressure but is dressage legal!
I agree with the no whip rule in HP Sue, if it's the case in the Performance Show. I'd hate to see a pony whipped round the course!
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Post by NFK Dumpling on Aug 11, 2006 13:42:12 GMT -1
That nearly gave me heart failure - my pony's bit isn't shown and I've been doing prelim for ages (we don't improve!) but once I read it the next page it turns out it's OK! This show business is very confusing  |
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Post by JoM on Aug 11, 2006 13:59:10 GMT -1
Is a baucher also known as a hanging cheek then?! Ladies - No WHIP rule  ! No whip, no spurs, no Dancer around the handy pony course! ROFL ;D  I wouldnt beat him ALL the way around!! LOL Honest! |
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Post by lancslass on Aug 11, 2006 14:51:57 GMT -1
yes, the baucher is supposed to put pressure on the poll gill......i see your point.
the wilkie with having two half rings welded into the main ring is quite severe. described by some as an action similar to a gag. your rein goes thru one half moon and the cheekpiece the other, so as soon as pressure is applied with the rein, the poll pressure is on almost straight away. you will only get a very mild poll pressure with a hanging cheek baucher. i tried one last year on daniel and it was just like riding in a snaffle because the ring could not spin when pressure was applied.
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Post by greydales on Aug 11, 2006 15:44:19 GMT -1
Yes Karen I agree the poll pressure is not very severe with the baucher, it is quite a useful bit as the bit itself lifts in the mouth when contact is taken up so taking pressure off the tongue and bars (in fact I am wondering whether to try this with Dancer!).
I just went to have a look at a wilkie as I wasn't sure what it looked like and I can see the effect it would have - kind of like a mini three ring gag!
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Post by dalesponyrider on Aug 11, 2006 16:27:24 GMT -1
I think the Wilkie was designed for children with strong ponies!
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