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Post by mickey on Mar 21, 2008 18:08:44 GMT -1
Thought Id mention this as Im really impressed. I did a show with Yeti in a pelham and had few brakes- ok 1st show, new venue... YM suggested trying one of these. Given that a dutch gag isnt enough (have more control in a pelham) I was skeptical. However he went well in it and I had brakes. His head carriage is also lower. Just need some shorter cheek pieces to make it an ideal fit  www.4dobbin.com/productDetail.aspx?product_id=3397Ive got it on the bottom ring for the mo but Im not having to really pull him in it |
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Post by harleydales on Mar 22, 2008 8:35:18 GMT -1
Em, how is it different to the dutch gag?
I am having braking problems at the moment and am looking for something, Harley is in a dutch.
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Post by mickey on Mar 22, 2008 12:03:04 GMT -1
The top ring attaches to the cheek pieces and Ive got my reins on the bottom. The bit itself is loose so when you take a hold it sort of slides up the ring if that makes sense-giving a bit more leverage. I didnt think it'd work with him having had him in a dutch before but it does seem to work so far- I only got it as YM has a warmblood she jumps who is pretty hot but I saw how good the brakes were when applied so gave it a go.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2008 14:06:36 GMT -1
Looks similar to the KK sprenger universal bit which Gem likes and alot cheaper!
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Post by PonyGirl on Mar 23, 2008 2:50:24 GMT -1
What makes it a "gag"? I have never understood that.
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Post by harleydales on Mar 23, 2008 11:19:25 GMT -1
Doesn't the gag bit refer to the poll pressure - whereas normal milder bits apply pressure to the mouth and tongue, gags also do poll pressure? That's waht I thought.
But then, do Pelhams do poll pressure? They are not gags! HELP!
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Post by mickey on Mar 23, 2008 11:28:58 GMT -1
Ive no idea why its called a gag- other than the more you pull the higher up into the mouth it goes if that makes sense.
Still need to get him out for a really good blast to test it truely- but he feels so much nicer in it.
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Post by SuzieP on Mar 23, 2008 19:46:30 GMT -1
Interesting. IMHO it's not the bit that's dangerous or that causes the terrible injuries though - it's the rider using the bit badly. Just being picky really. It's a useful bit in the right hands.
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Post by SuzieP on Mar 23, 2008 21:51:36 GMT -1
I was advised to try Bea in a gag (a) for brakes which could be applied gently and (b) to help keep his head up when he was going through a bucking phase. It has worked on both counts - he responds to the slightest squeeze on the reins to ask him to slow down and hasn't bucked for ages other than a "hump" or two if he's really excited.
He hates any unjointed bit and sets his jaw and neck against it and I dislike the action of the Dr Bristol.
He now carries himself much better and isn't as heavy in my hands. I can use the rein aids lightly and really feel that the gag is the bit for him. I agree that it could be horrible in the wrong hands.....but in itself it isn't a "bad" bit.
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Post by mickey on Mar 24, 2008 16:06:39 GMT -1
Out of interest I had him back in a pelham today- I was going out with 2 people for a hack and needed to know that I had brakes- ie not the sort of hack to find out he isnt as good in it! I found him a lot heavier in my hands- although on the way back we had the most amazing, engaged trot he's ever done.
I later jumped him in the school as did Lucy... he was pretty strong and very difficult to stop cutting corners. Wish now Id swapped to the metalab to see what difference it made but he certainly went better in the metalab last time.
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