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Post by valerie n scout on Jun 15, 2008 19:51:12 GMT -1
does anyone use or has used a grackle Scout is quite strong but is really nose sensitive and never pulls in his headcollar would a grackle help x any other help accepted x  |
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Post by olivia on Jun 15, 2008 20:12:09 GMT -1
I believe grackles are designed for horses who cross and lock their jaw to evade the bit. I use one on Tilly for jumping and it is relatively successful.
If you are looking for a nose band that has a bit of pressure to control you could try looking at the kineton or a myler combination bit. I'm not sure how strong Scout is and I think both of these can be quite strong.
I have also ridden Tilly out in her bridle without a nose band but her rope headcollar underneath. From the head collar I used a long rope looped round to be like a second set of reins, just hanging on her neck. If she got very strong I could pick the rope up and apply some nose pressure. The surprise of the change from bit to nose pressure was very effective at getting Tilly to refocus and come back to me. Obviously this isn't much good anywhere else but out hacking tho...
Olivia
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Post by zeldalithgow on Jun 16, 2008 9:38:59 GMT -1
I have no experience of using one of these, so don't know if it would be of any use  www.ingatestonesaddlery.co.uk/Horse/Saddlery/Bridle-Parts/Shires-Worcester-Noseband-101485.aspxWorcester
The Worcester noseband was developed and has been patented by Shires Equestrian.
The broad cavesson part of this noseband has two narrow straps at the centre front, which fasten to the bit rings.
It was originally designed for strong horses, as it adds nose pressure to the rein aids. It also limits the backwards movement of the bit. Some riders havefound that it also helps with steering. |
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Post by valerie n scout on Jun 16, 2008 11:31:38 GMT -1
oh sounds good, have spoken to a local saddler she thinks she has one somewhere might be brown but would put a sheepskin nose band on as bridle is black, thanks zelda will give it a go will let you know xx
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Post by southerner on Jun 16, 2008 19:47:43 GMT -1
I would just use a simple drop noseband and a hanging snaffle, dales tend to like this combination. Worcester nosebands tend to make them lean more, I found, have one if you need one though!
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Post by valerie n scout on Jun 17, 2008 13:48:32 GMT -1
doesnt lean, tends to chuck his head up he wears a martingale as he threatens to break your nose Scouts not the dales he is a cross ! very cross sometimes when i wont let him go, the saddle place has one its nearly £25 quid so its a lot of money x did fancy a bitless something cause like olivia meantioned i have also tried him in a headcollar only and he was easier to slow and stop but its only been on quiet rides x
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Post by Rachel on Jun 19, 2008 20:10:18 GMT -1
Smartie had one because he use to lock his jaw and bolt, bloody godsend, I tried a drop but unless they lock there jaw they have no use didnt work.
I also found he likes it better because of how it sits. Bloody mircile shame you cant use them in dressage.
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Post by nars on Jun 19, 2008 20:36:12 GMT -1
How about the Dr.Cook bitless bridle. There was an article in H&H today about it and how an event rider found it successful on her very strong horse.
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Post by NFK Dumpling on Jun 20, 2008 11:30:40 GMT -1
James came with a Grackle which he managed to remove on a regular basis, I probably hadn't done it up correctly, so I got a cavesson. His previous owner rode him without a bit but I never have.
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Post by valerie n scout on Jun 20, 2008 12:50:28 GMT -1
mmmm dr cook, now off to the web to see wot one of those .....is !......are ! english i passed at scool too mind you its a bit ago now x
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