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Post by loopylou on Sept 30, 2008 7:36:33 GMT -1
Help, i know we have been here before but i really could do with some feeding advice. Sparky is so fit and active at the moment he could do with more grub in him.
I had put him on Baileys lo cal balancer, but for a pony who doesn't even get wound up on oats, the balancer sent him a bit loopy.
I have got him on Alfa A and Spillers cool mix at the moment, but he could probably do with something different than the cool mix, to keep his weight on.
Help, any ideas advice, the feeding world is a mind field.
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Post by valerie n scout on Sept 30, 2008 12:58:21 GMT -1
the boys just get healthy hoof moistened with water or sugar beet in the cold months, if they need more i just add a little cool mix. you could have your hay checked for its feeding content or feed horse haylege thats good for them(not good for laminitics) Scouts hard to feed in the winter as always looses weight and he loves it its a tad pricey tho £5:80 here x
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Post by NFK Dumpling on Sept 30, 2008 13:08:44 GMT -1
Have you tried Spillers helpline? If you want an alternative to their cool-mix they will be able to explain their products and help you pick the one they think most suitable.
Allen & Page helpline is helpful too.
One I rang gave me bad advice but I can't remember which one but obviously they are there to plug their own products.
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Post by loopylou on Sept 30, 2008 13:30:10 GMT -1
Thanks, i have spoken to Spiller, who where very helpful and i explained that Bailey's lo cal sent him a little loopy, which she was amazed by and hear a lot of people get on very well with it.
Anyhow, we are going to try Slow energy realise mix and conditioning fibre both by Spiller, just ordered them through our local feed supplier and see how we go.
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Post by NFK Dumpling on Sept 30, 2008 17:05:45 GMT -1
Good Luck!
I gave James and Musky chopped up parsnips last winter; James was fine but they sent Musky dulaly so I think ponies are sensitive to different things. There must be something in Bailey's Lo Cal that doesn't suit Sparky.
I thought he looks in excellent condition in your XC photos.
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Post by jay on Sept 30, 2008 17:20:21 GMT -1
I've been feeding Jay with simple systems feeds for a while now. I'm really pleased with how he's looking (and behaving!) on it. I used to have to feed him a competition mix whenever I needed a bit more work from him, but couldn't keep him on it long term because he piles weight on too easily and fizzed up fairly easily. With simple systems all I have to do is feed him a bit more when he's doing more work...I don't have to introduce another feed. He's on lucibix, purabeet and the total eclipse balancer
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Post by nic on Sept 30, 2008 18:38:44 GMT -1
hope that was thru crofts lalalalala......lol
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Post by harveydales on Oct 1, 2008 5:51:06 GMT -1
I've been feeding Jay with simple systems feeds for a while now. I'm really pleased with how he's looking (and behaving!) on it. I used to have to feed him a competition mix whenever I needed a bit more work from him, but couldn't keep him on it long term because he piles weight on too easily and fizzed up fairly easily. With simple systems all I have to do is feed him a bit more when he's doing more work...I don't have to introduce another feed. He's on lucibix, purabeet and the total eclipse balancer That's interesting, Ren. I tried Simple Systems when I first got Harvey 6 years ago but Winnie was the only one of mine who would touch the stuff plus, in those days, you had to order huge quantities. But I liked all the theory behind it. Now I've got Harvey on Hi fi Senior (only because I use it for my 2 oldies) and Alpha A but introduce Equilibrium's Medium Event mix when he is in very hard work. I can't keep him on it all the time for the same reasons as you. I might have a word with the Simple Systems people - I think they did some sort of grass nut as a "safe" equivalent to competition mixes. I've heard of a few people having their horses react badly to a couple of the common balancers. It must be a specific component of the balancer causing a reaction like that.
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Post by jay on Oct 1, 2008 7:21:24 GMT -1
Its definitely worth having a word with them Pam, they've been very helpful to me over feeding enquiries for Jay and more recently for Axel. I emailed Jane van Lennep. I must admit that it did take Jay a few days to get used to it, but I persisited with it and he was soon just as excited to get his bucket feed as before.
Axel is on luciebix and also their 'Red bag' grass pellets (22% protein), which are for performance horses and youngstock. They'd probably be ideal for Harvey when he's in hard work.
The balancer 'total eclipse' has been great for Jay....His overall condition has improved a lot since he has been on it. His coat is a lot shinier and his mane especially has grown considerably and is a lot less dry and brittle.
I think it still depends on which area you are in as to how easy it is to get hold of and what sized orders you need to place. I'm very lucky as the distributor in my area doesn't have a minimum order, and he always delivers within a few days.
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Post by loopylou on Oct 1, 2008 9:48:40 GMT -1
Jay, have they got a website, if so please could you post the web address.
Nic, no sorry, it isn't through Crofts, as they don't supply our dog food (Autarki), so we go to another chap who is local and have now, sorry to say, got in a habit of getting my horse feed from him too, as i am already getting the dog food from him.
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Post by jay on Oct 1, 2008 12:02:27 GMT -1
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