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Post by drummersmum on Jun 14, 2009 11:16:49 GMT -1
Olivia is getting her tongue over the bit when we long rein, I have taken the cheek pieces up a bit as I did start with the bit very low in her mouth but now they are higher than I think I want them.
She is not unhappy with the bit, its all just a game and when I see her do it I can poke it back with my finger but I really don't want this to become a habit.
She has got quite a big tongue and flat roofto her mouth from what I can see but I have absolutely no experience in this at all and so I am at a bit of a loss!
HELP!
ps she is in a hanging cheek Neue schule lozenge type bit!
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Post by valerie n scout on Jun 14, 2009 17:06:14 GMT -1
Tomas did this for a while and I raised his bit,I think your right its a game but its also a habit you dont want to carry on,Tomas has stopped now, I do hope one of the girls can help x
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Post by greydales on Jun 14, 2009 18:43:24 GMT -1
Do you have a strongish contact, maybe she is reacting to that? If you don't and she's doing it because she can, perhaps try a drop noseband for a while. Pip used to do this and it was the only thing that stopped him. It was a habit he had got into after being bitted in a fairly severe bit (not by me!) and I did need to use the drop for a fair while, but eventually I was able to revert back to a normal cavesson. I wouldn't bother with a flash as the flash won't be as effective as a drop and IMO they serve no real purpose.
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Post by drummersmum on Jun 16, 2009 5:41:39 GMT -1
Too strong a contact could be the case when we are long reining, not because I have a strong contact but because she is napping towards home slightly on a circle, sort of pulling me with her and therefor is creating the stong contact herself and pulling the bit through her mouth. She is better in the small paddock by the stables but this has too much grass and she wants to eat, so we have been in the bottom paddock further from the stables......hmmm, its a hard one!
Having the bit higher stopped her last night but I'm still not quite happy! I'm trusting my instincts here and its just not right but I have to find out why!
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Post by greydales on Jun 16, 2009 7:19:50 GMT -1
Yes it is difficult not to be 'pulling' on them sometimes when you start with longlines as when they resist they create this pressure themselves as you say. Remy will sometimes mess around with her head and then causes the bit to pull.
Perhaps continue with more inhand work (as Becky does) to establish the contact a bit better? Or lunge with side reins for a while - then if they play around they are just fighting with themselves. Some people don't like using them but I found it very worthwhile with Pip.
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Post by southerner on Jun 16, 2009 11:40:26 GMT -1
I would try a drop noseband. A fulmer snaffle with keepers will stay high in the mouth and prevent this if it carries on.
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Post by Daftmare on Jul 29, 2009 22:06:28 GMT -1
Bonny did this in every bit I tried but the one that stopped her was the magic bit. A very thin bradoon type bit with a port. She was relaxed and happy in it and it was so cheap!! I got it from oakfield saddlery if you google it they do mail order! I got her a pelham with a very similar mouthpiece and she was fine with that too
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Post by drummersmum on Jul 30, 2009 7:49:35 GMT -1
;D ;D Thanks everyone, we seem to be doing OK now, we tried a couple of new bits but she is back in the first bit I started with   a Neue Schule hanging cheek and is very settled in her mouth...she got her tongue over once last week and I was just cursing when she slid it back and carried on as normal, so it obviously wasn;t as comfy as she thought it would be! ;D |
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