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Post by SuzieP on Nov 21, 2009 9:19:02 GMT -1
I'm having problems getting Bea to leg yield without evading - and wonder if anyone can offer some advice or tips. I'd like to know more about the leg yielding along a pole that sck1 mentions in the Terrible Tuesday post.
Bea evades through his shoulder and I struggle to keep him straight. It's getting to the point where I'm thinking before we start that we'll fail - and that's something I need to work on.
Could someone explain the aids to me and give me tips for keeping Bea straight and stopping that naughty shoulder/too much bend? Exercises? Any help gratefully received......
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Post by kathnsonny on Nov 21, 2009 12:05:51 GMT -1
I'll be interested to see the responses to this - i'm having the same trouble at the moment ;D
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Post by JoM on Nov 21, 2009 16:05:27 GMT -1
I went and bought a book called 101 Schooling Exercise for horse and rider by Jaki Bell. I have to say - its great - 101 (Obviously!) differant exercises to try and a write up and diagram on each one which makes it easy to follow. There is a whole section on leg yielding! www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/0715319507/ref=sib_rdr_dpThe link is to the expensive hard back one! But you get to have a look at a few pages - i really like it - i choose a couple or so out of it every time i school (which isnt often at the moment due to the pants weather) - it gives me something to focus on. Pop it on your list to santa!!!!!
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Post by SuzieP on Nov 21, 2009 16:27:01 GMT -1
Looks good! Cheers, Jo.....
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Post by Anna on Nov 21, 2009 17:04:12 GMT -1
I'm by no means an expert on this at all but the first thing that springs to mind is start small with some 5m loops along the school side before building up to leg yeidling down the quarter line (or even closer) to get just a couple of steps. If they are falling through the outside shoulder then keep you leg on that shoulder and close your outside hand to stop them. If you can open the inside hand too to encourage them to move away. You have to be very conscious of not dropping/collapsing your inside shoulder/leg/hip and keeping yourself central in the saddle. Back up with a schooling whip too if he/she is ignoring your inside leg.
A different way of doing leg-yielding and probably less likely to fallin on the shoulder is to do it on a circle working from 20m circle into 15m and then even 10m and then back out again, start doing it in a walk.
Another good exercise to get them sharp on moving away from leg aids is to walk a diamond, making a sharp (ish) turn at each corner without letting them swing through behind. My instructor makes me do this a lot with Dylan as he is so green and its v.effective to get him a) straight on the lines in between and to get him to respond to my leg.
Thats a bit of a brain splurge, i can't describe it very well without actually riding it.
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Post by sck1 on Nov 22, 2009 8:31:13 GMT -1
I have been practising leg yielding on circles - decreasing to improve our bend and then leg yielding back out to a 20 m circle. Also the exercise Anna mentioned was one that I learnt at a riding school. The Diamond exercise for us was at C turn and head for B or E but leg yield back out to the track (and to the fence) to reach the track at or just before the marker, as horses tend to hug the safety of the fence they are more will BUT watch out for shoulder evasion.
The pole thing I was talking about is a trec obstacle and is very good. Just put a pole on the floor - you can put in front of a fence to stop any forward movement. Stand over it and then leg-yield along it - Blue gets confused and tries a bit of forward and then a bit of rein-back but is improving as he gets the idea that he doesn't have to jump it either.
For me little and often seems to work especially at the end of a schooling session when all energy is expended and Blue is then prepared to use his brain. Also I often do little exercises on hacks as well, especially on the way home again when he is very relaxed and listening.
Hope this helps
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Post by SuzieP on Nov 22, 2009 10:03:01 GMT -1
That's a huge help - thank you. I couldn't work out in my head the pole exercise - but understand it now.
Just thinking about it, he leg yields much better when we're out hacking. Maybe because in the school I always ask him to move over to the fence, he's trying to hug it. Hmmmmmmm.
All very helpful - thanks so much....
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Post by tinkerdorisalison on Nov 22, 2009 17:53:21 GMT -1
You have to be very conscious of not dropping/collapsing your inside shoulder/leg/hip and keeping yourself central in the saddle. that is really good advice..., plus don't forget that you have to keep the forward movement too, don't just focus on the front end have fun!
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Post by SuzieP on Nov 22, 2009 18:05:07 GMT -1
How can I tell if I'm collapsing bits of me? Do I need someone on the ground to tell me?
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Post by southerner on Dec 11, 2009 22:57:55 GMT -1
Start with practising your turn about the forehand, ensue you keep your outside rein contact to stop foreward movement, keep your outside elbow neatly in to your ribs to help with this. Ask to move away from inside leg, one stp at a time. Then try walking in a large square, haliing and turning 90 degrees on each corner. Move on to walking a square, moving hind end over whilst still walking, then on to walking a circle, asking for HQ to move away in a larger circle. then try walking down the 3/4 line and leg yield towards the outside track, ask for one step straight and one step over at first, using turn of forehand aids. Ensure you keep a nice connection with your outside elbow to keep his shoulder tucked in!
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