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Post by harveydales on Jul 14, 2011 5:48:35 GMT -1
I mentioned this briefly in another thread but wonder whether any of you have similar problems and/or can offer advice. A couple of weeks ago a small, raised patch appeared on Harvey's back, to one side of his spine. It wasn't painful at all. The horseflies were very active at the time so I thought this was the most likely cause but I also paniced it could be saddle related. The lump disappeared after a few days but then reappeared again a week later. This time it was rougher to touch but Harvey wasn't bothered in the slightest. A few similar but less noticable marks appeared on his sides and after some prolonged studdying in the field I came to the conclusion the culprit was Winnie. Winnie is "long in the tooth" - literally and in years (37). He has already destroyed half of Harvey's mane through mutual grooming and I am positive this is what has caused the injuries. The other day I watched a grooming episode (harvey was wearing a fly rug) and this was the result:  It is not really sore but I can't put a saddle on it. What to do?  How would you treat this? I'm now using the thin lining with the fly rug and will spray cribox or similar on the rug. I don't want to separate Harvey and Winnie and they do enjoy mutual grooming. I can't put Harvey with the other ponies because he gets beaten up and it would be a shame to keep both Harvey and Winnie in paddocks on their own.  Any ideas and how long do you think it will take to heal? Just when Teresa was going to get him ready for the Performance Show........ |
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Post by valerie n scout on Jul 14, 2011 8:49:16 GMT -1
wow Winnies a really good grommer then Pam..what about a little Betadine, just to keep the skin from becomming infected..am sure you can buy it in spray and liquid form, poor Harvey X
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Post by zeldalithgow on Jul 14, 2011 18:43:11 GMT -1
Oh poor Harvey, I'd try aloe vera and lavender on it - hope it heals quickly
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Post by dalesponyrider on Jul 15, 2011 6:43:45 GMT -1
Can you ask the dentists advice? If it hasn't happened before maybe there is something that can be corrected in Winnie's teeth?
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Post by harveydales on Jul 15, 2011 8:33:04 GMT -1
Can you ask the dentists advice? If it hasn't happened before maybe there is something that can be corrected in Winnie's teeth? I think it hasn't happened before because in past years I kept Winnie in a grassy paddock n his own through the summer. This yaer Harvey is with him because I can't put Harvey with Frankie. Winnie's teecy could be ground down - a friend's old horse had this done but for medical reasons - but I wouldn't want to put Winnie through this. I now realise that the damage was worse because Harvey was wearing his Rambo fly rug which is a very course/rough material. I will just have to be careful what rug I put on Harvey. |
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Post by Debbie on Jul 15, 2011 15:14:54 GMT -1
 OMG... I knew in the other thread you'd said Winnie was enthusiastic, but yikes! I agree with the Betadine/aloe. Perhaps treat Harv's rug on areas that would be impacted by the saddle if Winnie grooms there and leave the other areas as 'sacrifice' areas? I mean, I don't know how much it would affect showing if say he got an enthusiastic grooming gash on his chest or haunches? It would still give Winnie the chance to mutual groom, but not stop Harvey's work. I'm another who'd recommend running Winnie past a dentist. When their teeth get too long and/or mishapen, it can begin to impact their eating.
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Post by harveydales on Jul 16, 2011 14:42:50 GMT -1
Thanks for the advice. I'm not bothered about looks/showing, just want to be able to get a saddle on harvey. Yesterday I spotted Winnie grooming at the same spot again. I was going to spray the saddle part of the rug with Cribox as Debbie suggested but forgot. He came in this morning with the whole raiased area hairless and skin pink and raw looking so that's it. I've separated harvey and Winnie. No more mutual grooming for them til the winter.  Heaven knows when I'll be able to get a saddle on harvey. |
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Post by tinkerdorisalison on Jul 16, 2011 19:40:30 GMT -1
Yikes that looks awful - I take it Harvey doesn;t mind being groomed so enthusiastically
can't sugest anything to help tho sorry
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Post by DalesLady on Jul 19, 2011 9:19:35 GMT -1
Try MultiDerm Pam www.horsexpress.co.uk/multiderm-ointment-x-125-gm-4896-p.aspThis is a link to what it is, not where I bought it from - I have lost the link to that! Its available in powder and ointment form and its brilliant. Wounds heal quickly under the gel as it acts like a bandage without being one. We have used it with great success on some horrible wounds and everytime the healing has been quick and hair comes back the correct colour. |
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Post by manorian on Jul 19, 2011 16:35:58 GMT -1
I would cover it with sudacrem Pam. It will take any inflamation away and heal in a matter of days. I always have tubs of it.  |
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Post by harveydales on Jul 20, 2011 5:09:23 GMT -1
Try MultiDerm Pam www.horsexpress.co.uk/multiderm-ointment-x-125-gm-4896-p.aspThis is a link to what it is, not where I bought it from - I have lost the link to that! Its available in powder and ointment form and its brilliant. Wounds heal quickly under the gel as it acts like a bandage without being one. We have used it with great success on some horrible wounds and everytime the healing has been quick and hair comes back the correct colour. That sounds like something I should keep in my vet cupboard for times like this. Will look into it. I've been putting on a cream I found I had - Botanica Herbal Healing cream - and it is doing the job. The patch is bald but not inflamed at all now. Harvey is enjoying being on his own! |
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Post by harveydales on Jul 20, 2011 5:11:59 GMT -1
I would cover it with sudacrem Pam. It will take any inflamation away and heal in a matter of days. I always have tubs of it. Thanks for that. I'd completely forgotten about good old sudocream. I used to use it a lot. The pot I have must be way out of date; must stock up. |
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Post by DalesLady on Jul 20, 2011 6:20:03 GMT -1
I love sudocrem for small things and bites etc. Also, smear a small amount in the ears when those horrid little black flies are about, it keeps them at bay too.
I used it for everything until someone told me about the Multiderm cream and gave me some to try, it really is good stuff and quite inexpensive as you don't need a lot. Things seem to heal very quickly with it.
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Post by Debbie on Jul 20, 2011 18:36:23 GMT -1
That MultiDerm looks really interesting. It reminds me of the first aid stuffs I used to use ages ago. Knock on wood, my two don't get near so many scrapes and injuries now that they're in seperate paddocks.
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OMG... I knew in the other thread you'd said Winnie was enthusiastic, but yikes! 
Heaven knows when I'll be able to get a saddle on harvey.
