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Post by rachelg on Jul 17, 2006 23:21:57 GMT -1
oh dear this poor horse,im sure he is a bit fed up,id keep trying with the bute it would make him feel so much better,have you tried putting it in a sandwich of honey,or jam?something along those lines.......a friend of mine whos horse has suffered with really poor feet for 8 years,and who has tried absolutely everything inc all the above,last year finally ended up where her pony had to have 6 months without shoes at all,they were so bad the farrier was coming every 2 weeks and it just became a viscious circle of more nails more cracks more breaks more damage no hoof no shoes,so he wore old mac boots very succesfully for 6 months and she settled on equimins products (lizzie is just starting with the equimins stuff now she can tell you which ones) she saw a remarkable difference in a couple of months and this year is the first year he has kept his shoes on all summer!and his feet are so much better......also i think the boa boots are very succesfull indeed,with the gaiters......
physio/back person - your vet should be able to give you some recommended numbers.....i wish you all the luck in the world with this horse,and fingers crossed you can get some bute down him so he at least feels a bit better...
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Post by akehurstannabel on Jul 18, 2006 6:21:59 GMT -1
Have you tried mixing the bute with mollasses. I've found that works for Holly, but unfortunately Sandy can sniff it out a mile off! If she has to have bute she has to have it syringed down like a wormer. I water down mollasses with hot water and mix that with it to make it less unpleasant. I know it's mean, and I only do it in emergencies, but sometimes needs must. Jo x
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Post by JoM on Jul 18, 2006 14:57:53 GMT -1
Gosh - I am really quite shocked at Jill. We had no trouble what so ever to get her to come out. She was here for me about 4 weeks ago (if that) to check Dancer over.
I know she prefers you to ring after 7pm as she is more likely to be near her diary then.
I'm afraid I dont know of anyone else to recommend. We have always used Jill and found her very easy to gert hold of.
I would be tempted to ring her again after 7pm and speak to her to arrange something. She is worth it! ;D
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Post by louisesmob on Jul 18, 2006 18:54:20 GMT -1
Ok will try her again. Farrier coming tomorrow, which equimins stuff do I get? I am feeding him baileys conditioning cubes, and cool mix and chop cos he likes that, and is stuck in paddock with hay till farrier been. Tried alsorts with the bute but he sniffs it out too! Tried the worming syringe but he holds it in his mouth then spits it out! Will update when farrier been tomorrow, thats if we dont all roast alive before then.
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Post by flintfootfilly on Jul 18, 2006 19:08:34 GMT -1
Max used to love the taste of 1 sachet of bute mixed with one teaspoon of water and 1 teaspoon of blackcurrant (recommended by another DF) or blackberry jam, and administered in an old worming syringe. He would literally come in from the field for it, and say "agh" - ready!! I think the jam can sometimes give a more appealing flavour than some of the other sweet options.... Might be worth a go, but it's worth avoiding any jam that has large bits of fruit in as they bung up the syringe, as I soon discovered!! I can still remember the vet's face when this youngster demonstrated just HOW much he looked forward to his bute! Honey or molasses just never hit the spot for him. I guess it's like humans - we've all got favourite foods, but not necessarily the same ones.
Sarah
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Post by akehurstannabel on Jul 19, 2006 10:02:53 GMT -1
The jam will defintely be worth trying in future then! Jo x
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Post by shaklana on Jul 19, 2006 15:34:44 GMT -1
Golden syrup is the only thing that works for mine, mixed into a paste with the bute & spread in white bread sandwiches. They don't take it in jam or apple sauce. Alternately ask your vet to prescribe Dannilon which is much, much more palatable, they eat this in normal feed.
Do you have any photo's of the hooves?
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Post by akehurstannabel on Jul 19, 2006 18:56:56 GMT -1
Sandy must be a freak then as she wouldn't eat dannilon either or bread or golden syrup or treacle or............anything! Jo x
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Post by louisesmob on Jul 19, 2006 19:22:08 GMT -1
farrier came today and said i need to moisten them, so gonna get some hoof moist ,I believe carr and martin do a good one. He is eating but not gaining any weight, not much grass about tho as all burnt with this heat! He said if we get the shoes to stay on, he will put gel stuff and gauze under the shoe. This costs 25.00 per foot, so if shoes keep coming off then no point. Might look into old mac boots for him or similar, not really sure which way to turn, I have always had horses and managed to fix them one way or another, but this one has got me a bit bamboozled!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by debbiec on Jul 19, 2006 19:49:16 GMT -1
Take a look at www.epauk.org If you can't keep shoes on then using hoof boots is an option, however hoof boots alone may not do anything to improve the situation. The infection in the foot needs to be treated (if it's there and it sounds to me like it is - though obviously I haven't seen the feet  ) and you need to grow some structure. The right kind of pads inside some old macs would be a good option. If you decide to go that way, then you will need the old macs a size bigger to be able to fit the pads in comfortably. |
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Post by harleydales on Jul 20, 2006 9:26:01 GMT -1
I have NAF hoof moist which is good and nice to use.
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Post by louisesmob on Jul 20, 2006 16:13:39 GMT -1
got some carr and martin hoof moist today, no naff in stock, so will see how it goes. Horses sure keep me poor as a church mouse!
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Post by lizzylove on Jul 21, 2006 4:49:31 GMT -1
HI as Rachel said i have startes to feed Merlin Equimins Hoof Mender supplement and equimins feed balancer pellets - he absolutely loves them, but some one else was saying they are finding it difficult to get their horse to eat the hoof mender supplement. I've also just started using lanolin (sp!?) - which is sheepswool fat. It's available from the chemist and it is a good moisturiser to puit on their feet. I have been reccomended it by two people who succesfully used it last summer.
*The hoofmender supplement helps them grow a stronger, better quality hoof wall and the feed balancer helps them absorb the hoofmender powder to make full use of it. If you visit the equimins website you can read all about them.
Good luck!
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Post by louisesmob on Jul 21, 2006 5:43:25 GMT -1
will do that today thanks for all your help.
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Post by louisesmob on Jul 28, 2006 20:09:34 GMT -1
Update
Managed to get some hoof moisturiser, bought the most expensive and see how he goes. Rambler seems to pick up and be much happier until he loses a shoe then we go back to square one. Ordered him a pair of easy boots just in case! Doesnt seem to be gaining weight much but looks much better in himself, shinier coat, etc. I could burst into tears everytime I look at him, seems such a shame for a really genuine horse, woudnt harm a fly. Not much grass at min tho, all burnt! Feeding him baileys no 4 conditioning cubes and quiet mix, doesnt seem to like his feed dampened either, funny horse!!!
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) and you need to grow some structure. The right kind of pads inside some old macs would be a good option.
