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Post by fran on Nov 18, 2007 17:49:04 GMT -1
does anyone know the price for a sarcoid removing either freezing or cutting out. worried it could be thousands karen
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Post by SuzieP on Nov 18, 2007 17:52:19 GMT -1
Oh dear! This sounds serious Karen.
I don't think the freezing is dreadfully expenive, as vet's bills go. Presumably cutting the sarcoid out would involve anaesthetic, and that is £££££s. Could you maybe ask your vet for an estimate to help you in your decision.
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Post by nars on Nov 18, 2007 17:55:47 GMT -1
I had Malki operated on to remove two - one from each armpit. The bill was in excess of 2k
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Post by greydales on Nov 18, 2007 17:56:02 GMT -1
I'm sure it wouldn't be in the thousands I think one of the biggest costs in any operation is the anaesthetic, but as Sue says you ought to ask your vet to give you a ballpark figure.
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Post by fran on Nov 18, 2007 19:04:56 GMT -1
thanks guys, i had heard it was in the kkk's. am selling a horse with one and potential buyers are looking into his sarcoid problem. blooming eck what a problem. karen
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Post by hannahj on Nov 18, 2007 20:19:49 GMT -1
Funnily enough, my 3 year old has had both procedures done. Last year he had one surgically removed under general anaesthetic. That cost about 2k under insurance, which in my opinion, looking back was totally uneccesary! I think the vet just saw money bags! Now I have an exclusion on my insurance as a result! Then in January I went to see Professor Knottenbelt as I had found lumps all over his body, in random places. My vet said they were definitely sarcoids and needed removing under general again! I decided to be referred after that! Prof Knottenbelt examined them, biopsied them, and found they were 'eosinophilic granulomas!' Fly collagen bumps. Nothing to worry about, and they have now gone away! So, when a little cluster arrived back at the initial sarcoid site, my first reaction was, straight back to Knottenbelt, but I saw a different vet (same practice) and he said he would freeze them off. I got the bill a few days ago, and with the sedative and everything, it was only about £80 I think (cant remember for sure) and I was pleasantly surprised.
It's now a month since the procedure and it's nearly all healed. I would definitely recommend giving it a try! After all, for that price it's got to be worth a try! It's also not really that invasive! I mean, they do the same procedure on children's verrucae!
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Post by SuzieP on Nov 18, 2007 20:27:33 GMT -1
When I had Bea vetted the vet found some tiny warts on his sheath, which he said could turn into sarcoids.....but that if they did grow any bigger or start to cause problems he could freeze them off for very little cost. So I decided to buy Bea (so glad I did). Because the insurance company wanted a copy of the vetting before they would insure Bea, sarcoids are excluded from the policy now.
I'd suggest that any prospective purchaser should get the opinion of the vet and make a decision based on that. And if you talk to your vet Karen and find out how much it would cost to treat the sarcoids it'll give you a good position for any negotiation on the price.
Hi Hannah!! Welcome back to Dalesfans!
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Post by greydales on Nov 18, 2007 21:39:22 GMT -1
Cripes - I didn't realise it was that costly ..
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Post by fran on Nov 19, 2007 12:36:05 GMT -1
had a word with vet this morn as many of you say about £80-100 for freezing. they recommend the liverpool cream several visits cost about £400 my insurance excess is £120 so a bit more hopeful karen
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Post by Rowndan on Nov 19, 2007 13:43:18 GMT -1
Dan had a sarciod frozen off and it was about £100 pound but it didnt work.
he then has liverpool cream and that shifted it. it was about £150 i think but i took dan to the hospital to have it done so no call out fees.
sarciods are my nightmare at the moment as dan has 2 more between his front legs, in summer they go horrile as the flies open them up. my vet told me to leave them unles they change and go bigger. i put cut heal multicare on them and that seems to shrink them and keep the flies of.
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Post by nars on Nov 20, 2007 14:29:13 GMT -1
Malki had the Liverpool cream initially. It is horrible. Very toxic and boy does it smell. Be careful with it. Sadly, in his case it did not work ad in fact aggravated the situation, hence the need for surgery.
If you contact Professor Knottenbelt and send him some pictures of the sarcoids he will be able to tell you the type of sarcoid they are and the best kind of treatment for them. He is very helpful.
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Post by zeldalithgow on Nov 23, 2007 10:15:51 GMT -1
I used Camrosa on one that Prince had on his chest close to the top of his leg, it worked took a while and it did go yukky but it hasn't come back.
I know a lot of people don't like Camrosa and that it can make some sarcoids worse so I've heard, but it worked for me
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Post by khristyne on Nov 23, 2007 21:49:09 GMT -1
i sent a pic to the prof and he recommended BCG vaccine to be injected underneath the one on bridgets eye. I am still wondering what to do! Homeo pathic approach hasnt done much i am afraid.
I wouldnt buy a horse with a sarcoid again, that is for sure!!
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Post by pauhla on Dec 9, 2007 13:18:55 GMT -1
Hi all, Please don't see this as an advertisiment for me !!!!! but do be aware that there are other options. I have worked with so many cases of Sarcoids over the last few years that have been through various different procedures that haven't worked and in most (but not all) Essential Oil Therapy has shifted them. Various procedures are approprate for different types of Sarcoids but the main problem is that even one cell left behind can regrow and often trigger more Sarcoids to develop... again, not always. This is why tying off with rubber castration rings or thread isn't successful with many Sarcoids and cryosurgery or straight forward cutting them out can also lead to a high re-occurance rate. Most of my clients came to me either because the Liverpool Cream hasn't worked or because they are really concerned about their horses reaction to it as some horses don't tolerate it well. They just want to feel they have tried all the other non-invasive treatments with a good track record in the knowledge that they have the cream to fall back on. Any treatment has to be done with the consent and support of your vet and only after professional veterinary diagnosis but for those cases where the Sarcs are in a difficult place, the horse is likely to struggole emotionally or the owner has tried everything else, EOT can be a reasonably priced option.
I know how devestating it can be to have a horse who is badly affected by Sarcoids but please don't let this put you off if your "perfect" horse happens to have one. It isn't always an issue. My own horse has one and despite me spending most of my professinal life helping clients get rid of their horses Sarcs, on my vets advice, I've left my mares well alone and it's given us no trouble for the last 6 years!
By the way, a tip for anyone who has a horse with open, bleeding Sarcs in summer time. It is possible to make up a plain clay paste to vcover them up. Not only does this help to dry them up but it also acts a a physical barrier and I find most of my Sarcoid hroses end up with their topical essential oil application being put in either green or white clay, as appropriate for the type of Sarcoid, in the summer.
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