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Post by greydales on Aug 3, 2007 11:29:48 GMT -1
Strangely Quest isn't particularly greedy or food obsessed but does have a very sweet tooth. I tried disguising the magnesium in all sorts including Speedybeet but he turned his nose up at it all. I tried a tiny bit myself and it does have a strange after taste - a bit like how I remember Milk of Magnesia from my distant childhood! What kind of magnesium are you giving him Pam? I have both Mag Ox and Cal Mag - the former is white and powdery like flour and the ponies don't seem to like it, so I reduce the amount they have and they all eat it in smaller amounts. I also give them Cal Mag (which is like sand) to make up the amount of magnesium and this seems a bit more palatable. I don't feed it to them every day, only when they come in but I suppose something is better than nothing! Pip was often footy after being shod and I am convinced it was because the farrier took too much foot off. I think we can become paranoid about laminitis and put everything down to it, but I can understand that if your horse or pony has had it then it's easy to do! |
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Post by harveydales on Aug 3, 2007 14:34:58 GMT -1
Gill, it was the Mag Ox I tried. I gave up in the end and got him one of those Mg salt licks which all 3 seem to love.
My trimmer is convinced Quest was just feeling a bit footy after the trim because I turned him out without his hoof boots plus she is gradually trying to bring his lami feet back to normal. Trouble is, once you've been through lami with your pony it is hard not to be paranoid!
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Post by southerner on Aug 9, 2007 19:39:55 GMT -1
Epsom salts is magnesium. Our vet Andy Durham of Liphook equine hospital is currently researching insulin resistance and laminitis. He did a fab lecture for us. There is a test for insulin resistance which is worth doing, will show if your horse is more likey or less likely to get laminitis. The up to date treatment is metformin, not magnesium, as insulin resistance in horses mirrors that in humans and the same treatments can be used. I am insulin resistant, and do nt need magnesium, but do need metformin. have a look at this thread for more detailed info www.highlandponyenthusiasts.co.uk/forums/viewthread.php?tid=13210&page=1#pid161190 |
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Post by harveydales on Aug 10, 2007 5:19:09 GMT -1
Julie - thanks for this info. It makes a lot of sense. Quest had a test some years ago which showed he was not insulin resistant but could be heading towards it. Presumeabley metformin is something your vet prescribes so I will mention it next time I'm concerned about Quest.
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Post by Biggerside Benwell on Aug 11, 2007 20:35:49 GMT -1
Danny had the insulin resitance test and it came back negative. Not tried just magnesium but the other supplements he has have high magnesium in them.
Hope Bobs is ok Bev.
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Post by bevbob on Aug 13, 2007 15:52:32 GMT -1
He is doing really well Kristy, I think it was the shoeing that lamed him rather than lami. He recovered too quickly for lami Im sure and he's doing really well in the grassless field!
Hope Danny is doing well too.
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Post by southerner on Sept 3, 2007 21:38:22 GMT -1
So epsom salts is hydrated magnesium sulphate - so whats the difference between epsom salts and magnesium supplements? Does anyone know?
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Post by nars on Sept 4, 2007 8:04:13 GMT -1
Chelated magnesium has been used as a calmer for a long time. Many of the trimmers belive it is good for foot health. It's certainly helpful for nervy horses. I buy it in pure form (I've bags of it and I wonder what people on the yard must think of the pure white stuff!!)
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Post by The Moo on Sept 11, 2007 9:16:46 GMT -1
So, would you feed mag ox or cal mag as well as something like Top Spec or are you messing about with what is supposedly already balanced or would a cresty pony need the extra mag to cope with the extra problem.
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Post by jonib on Sept 18, 2007 22:39:42 GMT -1
If you like I can get the e-mail address for you of the lady I get mine from..She is very helpful and will advise you whether she thinks it will help in each case.
I am still very pleased with the effect it had on 2 of my 5.....The shetland in particular has actually got ribs for the first time in about 5 years....But it hasnt changed the other 2 shetlands nor Betty so they have it as a precautionary measure,again on her advice.
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Post by The Moo on Sept 19, 2007 6:57:08 GMT -1
I have since contacted Jackie A Taylor, if that is who you got yours from.
She is really helpful.
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Post by bevbob on Oct 22, 2007 18:11:08 GMT -1
I have been feeding the mag oxide and Bobs doesnt seem to like it much. The cal mag didnt bother him, he ate that no problem.
I have to put a very thinly sliced apple mixed into it he eats a bit then leaves it for his hay, its always gone by morning though.
I have noticed his weight dropping very slowly too, he is now down to 513kg and is looking fantastic! he is also feeling great as he gallops up to the gate every night and tonight cantered out the minute it was open, he's like a bunny at the moment hopping all over the show.
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Post by harveydales on Oct 22, 2007 19:39:16 GMT -1
Oh that's wonderful, Bev! I've been meaning to put a post up asking how Bobs is getting on.
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Post by pwhitt on Oct 23, 2007 18:03:11 GMT -1
I've just started my mare Emily on Magox, she's had laminitis ongoing since May and has just been confirmed with Cushing's have posted in vet questions. She doesn't like the Magox too much either so I'm introducing it slowly. Tried the full dose at first and was a bit surprised at 10kg weight loss in 5 days!!
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Post by harveydales on Oct 23, 2007 19:45:57 GMT -1
I couldn't get Quest to touch his feed at all with even the slightest amount of Magox in so I think you are doing well!
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