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Post by Biggerside Benwell on May 15, 2006 18:12:58 GMT -1
I use the barrier super plus which is good. Also trying the new naff off extra (pink one) which seems to be working really well so far.
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Post by sammy on May 16, 2006 8:01:05 GMT -1
Thanks has anyone tried the new Rockies bug lick, contains garlic etc and supposed to repel insects?
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Post by harveydales on May 16, 2006 9:06:09 GMT -1
Seems to me different sprays work on different horses in different regions. I like the Barrier one but mainly because of the nice smell. Not sure how effective it really is. The NAF one is no good at all on my herd. Has anyone tried the Net-Tex one? I've heard good things about it but haven't seen it for sale anywhere.
Is the Citronella ban thing for real then? I read it in Horse and Hound but then read somewhere that it was an April Fool.
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Post by sammy on May 16, 2006 9:48:03 GMT -1
I read it in Your Horse
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Post by flickan on May 17, 2006 20:55:51 GMT -1
I've seen a supplement that you feed by Global Herbs that is meant to stop midges biting the horse but haven't tried it with any of mine so don't know how palatable it is.
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Post by sammy on May 18, 2006 4:51:00 GMT -1
Info to share for you all.
Just asked vets advice on this topic and she says the best one around is
COOPERS PLUS, not cheap about £22 trailed round and either no one stocked it or out of stock, so I have just ordered it on line from Rideaway. Well I had to order my new short boots didn't I?
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Post by sarahmc on May 18, 2006 6:54:51 GMT -1
Yes the citronella ban is for real. As from 1st Sept. '06 it will no longer be legal to buy products containing citronella, lavender oil, tea tree oil and a couple of others I can't remember. My local tack shop has a list of the banned ingredients. I can't understand why the powers that be would rather we applied chemicals to our horses than proven natural products. I have ordered 4 bottles of IV Horse Four-in One gel off the internet as I find it very effective on all kinds of skin problems and it contains citronella, lavender and tea tree oils!
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Post by harleydales on May 18, 2006 12:56:50 GMT -1
I use IV horse fly stuff, it's great! And the Naff one. And I feed garlic to Harley and the mule but Jenny doesn't like it.
I got a lovely IV horse skin spray with tea tree and something else in it, it's a lovely soothing spray. Might have to go and stock up on a few bottles of each......
I tried my own brew, but it was so smelly I gave up!
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Post by rachelg on May 18, 2006 22:40:15 GMT -1
yep the ban is to start aug/sept i have done some enquiring at work and about 12 ingredients are to be banned,most of the companies are already producing new goods without the banned stuff in eg the new naf pink one...we will have to take all our stock with the products in off the shelf so arent ordering anymore so if you have a favourite buy it fast now in bulk,ask your supplier to order it for you etc before its too late!....in my experience having owned a horse a while ago with sweet itch,most things are a load of rubbish!every suppliment iv tried didnt work or help,the only products at the time i could get that helped were human stuff with DEET in...im trying to find out which horse fly sprays have deet in now,i thought carr day and martins extra strength has it in and that is the 1 im using at the moment, i also use a product called "dynamite" i get it mail order from a company who supply doggy stuff,cant just remember!try a search on the net....you dilute it and lasts for absolutely ages but isnt industrial enough for sweet itch sufferers,but its as good as most of the horsey stuff at a fraction of the price.....flax seed in the diet is meant to help but i dont know where you would get it from....if i can find out more i will let you know,we have a rep in next week who will be able to enlighten me futher!..in the mean time get buying!
ps ....how do i get it to notify me of any replies??!!!!!
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Post by harveydales on May 19, 2006 6:24:43 GMT -1
Rachel - Flaxseed and Linseed are the same thing so easy to get hold of in various forms eg oils, powdered preperations, processed seed such as simple Systems's one (if you buy the straight seed it must be boiled etc first which I'm sure you already know).
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Post by merlinalison on May 19, 2006 11:19:02 GMT -1
I think the Coopers one has DEEt in it - its certainly an insecticide rather than just a repellent which I think is why its so much more effective. THis is what my instructor uses (her field is between three reservoirs, very damp and with woods all round so the flies are atrocious). THink you have to wear gloves to apply it though.
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Post by shaklana on May 22, 2006 13:24:41 GMT -1
the cooper's fly spry contains permethrin, same as switch. these are the only products with a licence for sweet itch which proves they kill midges. deet is more effective still at preventing midge bites, but no products have applied for an equine sweet itch licence. the sweet itch centre sell deet for when the boett rug can't be worn. controlled trials on man against mozzies showed high strength deet effective for 8hrs, citronella effective for 20mins, garlic effective for 0mins. i love the net tex stop-itch product, but it's quite greasy so use boots deet gel when competing. the stop-itch seems to last well over 24hrs on my horse with mild sweet itch, so is v economical. 1 tub lasts more than a year applied just to withers, sheath, tailbase and under mane. stop-itch is a pink cream containing deet and camomile in a parafin base, smells like calamine lotion.
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Post by juliansteve on May 22, 2006 17:17:01 GMT -1
We had Coopers last year but it was useless - maybe we have some very resistant strain of midge!
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Post by shaklana on May 22, 2006 19:02:56 GMT -1
what we need to remember is that once a sensitive horse has been exposed to midges he's gonna be itchy for as long as it takes for the allergen to leave his body, many days or even weeks. no product can be very effective if we allow the horse to b bitten before and between product applications. i find coopers makes my ned more itchy, he must react to the ingredients badly. he also hated the smell so i kept missing under the forelock, one area he gets loadsa bites.
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Post by fran on May 23, 2006 8:14:29 GMT -1
cant think at the mo where i read it but some article i read this weekend said one company is recalling its products with citronella in because they can relabel them as something else . as long as they are not advertised as fly spray its perfectly legal.
i give sam lots of garlic in the hope that it makes adifference. i used the global herbs fly free but he wont eat it no matter how i try to disguise it. i made my own for when there arent too many but bought martin carr. i dont like the yellow film it leaves on his coat but havnt had enough flies to compare really. oh i got the iv cream for his face - white- didnt know about gels at the time lol
karen
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