Stallion question (Pic now on)

[shirlnjazz]

How much white is too much ok as some of you know I am quite interested in Renegade and I know he is a section A so the amount of white on him is within the allowed. BUT I looked at the stallion pic at the spring show and none of them have very much if any white, are there other stallions out there with more white, or wont it matter as long as his conformation/temperament are good.

forgot the pic, not a very good one, he hasd a white star and 2 white sock on the back, one less than the other

[grace]

White is fine as long as it doesn't go to high up. Not exactly sure how high up you are allowed but some people will but I think it is no higher than the fetlock.
You will find that the old stallions are more likely to have more white because they were allowed more then.
Our Dancer is an 'A' but if she were to be registered now she would be a 'B' because of it.I know she's a mare but it's the same principle

[mabel]

They also have to be agreed with the society before they're allowed to become a licensed stallion. Might be worth speaking to Jo Ashby about this as I'm not sure what the criteria is - apart from vet check - but I believe that just because they're an 'A' it doesn't automatically mean they'll get licensed.

[rebeccajane]

There is annual hoo ha over this at DPS agm, a colt was offered a premium on the grounds he was the best section A on the day. then a year or so later refused a licence on the grounds of too much white.
Understandably his owner is somewhat miffed.
I think this is less likely to happen now the Vet fills in your reg. picture when s/he does the chipping, I think that some owners were less accurate than others... and as you filled in your own paperwork the society had to believe that this was an accurate representation of the animals markings and not a reflection of your lack of artistic ability.

Having said that some vets are more talented than others in this department but dont (shouldnt) have a vested interest in making an A out of a B. ( Another glass of wine Mr Vet?...

[zeldalithgow]

I think being accurate where the markings are concerened would be easier if photos were required to show the amount of white on the pony

[shirlnjazz]

Yes thats true about the licencing, I knew that was the case, just wondered if it gave you less of a chance with something with white markings, its all so confusing

I think I will wait and get what I had my heart set on which was as pure black colt as possible for the fact its what I wanted to begin with. I am just getting desperate, i want a pony NOW lol but there is no point just jumping in just for the sake of it. Anyway, im still saving, if I wait just means I need to borrow less lol

[bevbob]

I actually love blk ponies with 2 whites at the back, I think it looks quite nice.

[bella]

Hi, the white on the hind feet is meant to go no higher than the fetlock joint, if it is lower than this there is no problem; difficulites arise when the sock is uneven and bits of it creep up above the top of the joint. If the sock is quite low there is no problem at all. Also just because the stallion himself is a whole black does not mean that he will breed that way. white from further back in the line can often come through unexpectedly with this breed. Personally I really like white markings as I think they are very smart! My ideal is two socks and a star.

[shirlnjazz]

Bella thanks for that clarifiction on the white markings, was never sure how they measured it I know that pure black doesnt always produce pure black but it was just a preference myself wanting an all black pony lol

[anna85]

Thats definatly true Debbie...Magic is whole black but has had a mix of different markings on his offspring. Its obviously pretty dependant on the mare too. New little rose has whole black legs but white star out of a mare with a white back foot and little Rocky is whole black out of a mare with a white star. All sec.A's.

We've a mix on our yard of markings, from those with the 'beacon' stars as we call them (i.e. the large bright stars) through to those with nothing and those with socks. End of the day it makes no difference to us though as long as they stay section A, I've just had to look at the website to check the markings ROFL as I never notice and can never remember.