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Post by AliandDolly on Aug 8, 2007 13:25:44 GMT -1
aww poor toby i hope he feels better soon alixx
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Post by bevbob on Aug 9, 2007 11:27:28 GMT -1
How is he now Gill, any improvements?
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Post by harveydales on Aug 9, 2007 15:28:45 GMT -1
Yes, how is he now?
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Post by greydales on Aug 9, 2007 15:46:23 GMT -1
I can't feel any pulses in his front legs now and he seems quite perky - he has a last bute on Saturday then I will see how he is Monday and phone the vet.
Bev and Pam, what do you do re. turnout after a bout of lami? I'm not sure what to do with Toby. I'm not sure whether to turn him out on the hard ground again, or whether to give him lusher grass (which is softer underfoot)? Also how long do you let them graze.
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Post by harveydales on Aug 9, 2007 19:18:59 GMT -1
When Quest had deffinate Lami, once he was OK'd for turnout I started him on just 1 hour on bare but hard paddock and built it up gradually. This year it probably wasn't lami but I still built it up gradually. I turned him out for just 1 hour for a few days on a tiny fenced off bit of paddock. He is now on 6 or 7 hours a day turnout but I do put his hoof boots on for this. however, this is becasue of the hard ground and the fact that he does have bone changes from previous bouts of lami.
With Toby, I would be inclined to play it safe initially and start him on just a short period out on the hard, barer ground rather than the lush stuff even though the ground is softer. He will be keen to graze so won't rush around.
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Post by bevbob on Aug 9, 2007 19:30:27 GMT -1
I would say the barer paddock is the safest bet too, when Bobs last had it he was in for about 5 weeks so I let him graze inhand for 10 mins and built that up then he went in the field for an hour and I built it up each day, at first he wore a muzzle too.
Bobs is doing great on the bare paddock, he just loves me when I bring him in at nights, he waits by the gate and whinnies at me LOL! I feel very loved by him even if it is just for grub!
I hope he's ok soon and brilliant you caught it so soon.
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Post by greydales on Aug 9, 2007 20:33:47 GMT -1
What worries me a bit is that Toby was on the bare paddock when he came down with this, and I'm wondering if it was the hard ground that brought this on? He's not had any lush grass at all, only a small bit of hay.
Hmm, not sure what to do!
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Post by harveydales on Aug 10, 2007 5:06:00 GMT -1
Yes Gill, I understand your concerns. I also think it was the change from really soft ground to rock hard that brought on Quest's problems this year, whether it was just bruising or lami. It could be the same for Toby and maybe, like Quest, it was just a case of bruising too? He would still have raised pulses for bruising. Your trimmer will probably be able to differentiate - is he coming soon?
Could you section a small bit of your "soft, lush paddock" and top an area to start Toby off on? If it was Lami it would be better to play it safe. I couldn't muzzle Quest because he's a headshaker but that might be another possibility? Or if he is really footsore, why not get a pair of boots like I've done for Quest to start Toby off with? so hard to know what to do for the best.
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Post by greydales on Aug 10, 2007 7:01:08 GMT -1
I think I'm going to go with my gut instinct and put Toby on a small bit of lusher grass, rather than back on the hard paddock. I do have a little area that's been a bit eaten down. He can stay stabled and gradually increase his time out, and I'll go from there! He seems okay in the stable at the mo anyway
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Post by Biggerside Benwell on Aug 11, 2007 20:41:04 GMT -1
Fingers crossed for the turnout, these lami ponies are so hard to manage at times. Have a lovely holiday!
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Post by greydales on Aug 11, 2007 21:54:21 GMT -1
Think Toby will be staying in, he is still pottery on the yard . I'm sure we will have a good hol thanks Kristy - but I see heavy rain and strong winds are forecast typical!!
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Post by Debbie on Aug 16, 2007 14:04:23 GMT -1
Just a thought as I've not had to deal with lami (well other than a mare at camp), but could you put cushy boots on him to help with the harder ground?
Poor boy...sending along virtual cuddles...
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Post by bevbob on Aug 17, 2007 13:50:27 GMT -1
Hope he's a lot better when you get back Gill, its hard to pinpoint why he got lami in the first place if he is already on a bare paddock???Thats if it is lami? its so hard to determine what the main factor is.
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Post by Rowndan on Aug 18, 2007 17:56:30 GMT -1
how is he gill?
When dan went back out after he has it, i fenced a small piece of for him then stuck another horse in there for a day to eat most of it of, so there wasnt any lush stuff left when he went in
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Post by greydales on Aug 18, 2007 20:04:49 GMT -1
It's a bit difficult for me to know what to do for the best, as he is still footy on the yard but better on lusher grass. As I don't want him to have too much lush grass I think I am going to look into boots, as my gut feeling is that the hard ground is making him uncomfortable.
At the mo he's still stabled although last night he did start whinnying for some reason, so I ended up turning him out at 5.30am! I tried putting a muzzle on but he wasn't having it so he got a few hours on the grass and came back in later.
Fingers crossed I get some sleep tonight LOL!
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