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Post by zeldalithgow on Dec 29, 2006 13:16:00 GMT -1
ROFL Alison she made an impression on you then  |
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Post by harleydales on Dec 29, 2006 13:18:59 GMT -1
She's not that far from me, my nearest Dales neighbour!
Haven't met her yet, though I have an invitation to go over next year.....
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Post by taffydales on Jan 7, 2007 9:58:50 GMT -1
Perrywinkle is a section b mare, but when I went to see her I was really shocked as the only incorrect mark on her is just above her front hoof and you can hardly see it!to be honest with you I,m not too bothered if she ever has a foal if its black grey or section a or b as long as they are both healthy.
Can I ask Jane why would a grey be good for endurance is there a particular reason.
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Post by PonyGirl on Jan 7, 2007 10:20:29 GMT -1
Hmmm Very Interesting!
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Post by zeldalithgow on Jan 7, 2007 12:11:19 GMT -1
Van I think a grey will have less heat problems than a black pony
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Post by taffydales on Jan 7, 2007 13:15:37 GMT -1
Not too sure on that one Zelda, as when I did the novice season on Sam who as you know was more white than grey, i use to have a problem getting his heart rate down if it was very hot, what struck me on the endurance circuit was the main difference apart from breed was the hoses temperament, if they seemed to be on the laid back side there heart rate would drop, where as if they were a bit wound up it was really hard to get there heart rate down.
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Post by zeldalithgow on Jan 7, 2007 14:17:47 GMT -1
Van that was the only reason I could think of  lol I'm sure Jane will let us know her reason for wanting a grey ;D and sort me out Ooo just thought maybe it's incase she gets lost a grey would be easier to spot - or maybe I should just shut up and let Jane tell us ;D |
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Post by taffydales on Jan 7, 2007 17:00:13 GMT -1
Lol Zelda I know what you mean I have been thinking all sorts here, I wish Jane would post soon and put us out of our misery.
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Post by SuzieP on Jan 8, 2007 19:03:44 GMT -1
Yes - come on Jane LOL .......why a grey for endurance?
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Post by harleydales on Jan 8, 2007 19:47:02 GMT -1
SORRY!! Been busy and never noticed all these posts!
Out of interest, what breed is Sam, Van?
Greys should cool easier than blacks, and not hold their heat so much in the hot weather. I used to fondle a piebald in the sun (strange I know!) and his white bits were always cooler than his black bits. So carrying that through, even though a grey might come in with a HR of 68, it should be easier to cool because the light colour will not absorb/hold the heat like a dark colour.
But yes, it also depends on the horse and its natural temperament - if it is a fizzy type its heart rate could go sky high with excitment.
It's also to do with the breed - most Arabs and TB's have naturally lower resting heart rates than natives. Harley's resting HR is 44 beats per minute, the average Arab is around 38! Which leaves a lot of room for maneuvre (sp) to get a vetting HR of 48 (no penalties).
But the theory is that a lighter coloured and lighter bodied animal will cool more easily than a heavier dark animal. So my grey Dales will have all the great Dales things, but should be easier to cool than H who is v hard as he is so heavy and dark. Having said that, a grey Dales will be equally as thickset as H and will probably have black skin?? So maybe my theory is out of the window!!!
LOL I've confused myself now!!
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Post by zeldalithgow on Jan 8, 2007 20:24:19 GMT -1
LOL Jane, thanks for the explanation |
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Post by merlinalison on Jan 10, 2007 11:47:34 GMT -1
Interesting! I always thought Merlin was particularly phlegmatic (read lazy...) and now its confirmed! his resting heart rate is around 28 - even when he was in pain and on starvation box rest in intensive care his resting heart rate was only between 32 and 40, and mostly at the lower end of that....
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Post by zoe123 on Jan 10, 2007 16:30:40 GMT -1
It is common for the grey lines to produce section B's, but then again it can crop up in any line, it is just seems more common in greys, not sure why this is?
Anyone with more experience than me know?
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Post by merlinalison on Jan 10, 2007 16:56:42 GMT -1
I thought this was because foals are marked as Section B when they're young before they've greyed out and that any white skin/markings is more obvious then? (Might be talking b***ocks here though....LOL)
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Post by zoe123 on Jan 10, 2007 17:45:20 GMT -1
I know and understand that but was just wondering if anyone knew why more greys were section B's?
Sorry I have no experience at all, just was wondering if there was any reason for this, not the greying out but the marking in the first place? The marking have to come from somewhere don't they?
Is there something in those particular lines that makes them more "prone" to it?
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lol I'm sure Jane will let us know her reason for wanting a grey ;D and sort me out 
