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Post by lucydales on Jun 9, 2008 7:04:51 GMT -1
She had a little boy in the field last night but won't let him suckle.
Vet's been and both okay.
Claire dale on the way to help me with Amy as everyone else is at work.
I'm getting rather panicy!!
They are in now and just letting them chill.
Any good advice gratefully received!!
He's beautiful! (But I would say that wouldn't I??!)
Send some chill vibes to Amy and suck vibes to foalie!
Thanks.
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Post by DalesLady on Jun 9, 2008 7:14:09 GMT -1
Congratulations Lucy. I am sure it will turn out OK and Amy will let him suckle OK when she gets used to the idea. Any thoughts on names?
I noticed with Diana she was a little reluctant, but she kept on trying. It must be a bit sore at first, Diana certainly gave a number of squeals when Pollyanna tried to latch on.
edited to amend spelling!
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Post by sammy on Jun 9, 2008 7:17:23 GMT -1
Hi, Beau was the same, I rang my vet, vet said restrain her as she must allow foal to suckle.
I tied her up in the stable, cross tied and held her whilst o.h guided foal to udder and bingo. I had to keep on doing this as her udder was tender and even after she had allowed foal to suckle she still tried to kick baby as she was so sore. The presure went after a couple of days and each time foal tried to suckle she was a bit better.
V importanf foal gets first drink!!
It may take a bit of time but she must allow
Forgot to say congratulations!
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Post by zeldalithgow on Jun 9, 2008 7:24:40 GMT -1
Congratulations Lucy  Can you distract her with a feed as well whilst she is tied up, I'm sure she will give in soon, it must be strange to suddenly produce this strange alien then have it come and try to eat you lol, don't know what I would have thought if I hadn't been told what was happening when I had my babies ;D |
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Post by ccc on Jun 9, 2008 7:29:58 GMT -1
Congratulations Lucy!!!!
We had a similar problem with Merry and Tom.
Jo gave me advice....back Amy into a corner and get a fore leg up then have someone else guide foalie to udder!
Best of luck, give me a call on the mobile if you need any moral support.
GOOD LUCK!
Clair x
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Post by Anna on Jun 9, 2008 8:31:58 GMT -1
We've done similar, its a real maiden thing and as soon as the milk comes through and the pressure releases it is a lot less sore for them, get hold of her and either make her stand up and hold the foreleg.
Keep in touch with your vets, they will help you if time ticks on too far.
Congratulations!!
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Post by greydales on Jun 9, 2008 9:01:11 GMT -1
Congrats Lucy!!  Hope that everything works out okay, I'm sure it will  |
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Post by dalesponyrider on Jun 9, 2008 10:19:18 GMT -1
Congratulations Lucy! Hope you manage to sort out the suckling problem very soon. Looks like there is some experienced advice on here. Suckling, milk flowing vibes from here!
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Post by cadeby on Jun 9, 2008 11:05:12 GMT -1
Second what everyone else has said but if he's not started suckling by now (it's 1pm) you MUST milk her by hand in order for him to get the colostrum. It's not difficult - use a wide-rimmed container such as a large plastic jug, rather than trying to get the jets of milk into something narrow like a baby bottle. Then see if he will suckle from the baby-bottle (make the hole slightly bigger in the teat). If not, as Shiatsudales says, get the vet in to stomach tube him very soon  It may be worth asking the vet for an artificial antibody serum to be injected too? Good luck and congratulations  |
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Post by maggie on Jun 9, 2008 11:35:23 GMT -1
Congratulations Lucy, Amy and babe
The vet will have checked that Amy has let down her milk, so in full agreement with everything that's been said here.
Best of luck, let us know when he's had a good drink, a wee and passed some muconium.
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Post by ccc on Jun 9, 2008 11:38:19 GMT -1
Any more news? Has she cleansed yet??? As helen (Cadeby) says its really important he gets the colostrom asap as after so many hours he can't digest it! Tom had to have plasma as a precaution  but is fine now ;D We ended up sedating Merry and giving her a shot of Oxy somthing (being blonde) to get her milk running as she hadn't started running milk. Do hope that things have improved now! hugs to you all can't wait to see piccies of your new boy! |
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Post by DalesLady on Jun 9, 2008 11:48:55 GMT -1
oxytocin Clair, Lady had to have that too!
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Post by dollylanedales on Jun 9, 2008 12:47:41 GMT -1
Congratulations Lucy and Amy!! Hopefully the little fella has managed to get some milk by now?
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Post by dalesponyrider on Jun 9, 2008 12:52:15 GMT -1
I keep checking here............hoping all is ok..............
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Post by lucydales on Jun 9, 2008 13:41:31 GMT -1
I think he's going to be Ittingston Tim (Nice but Dim!!) if he survives.
Second vet visit this morning and the aid of a twitch got Amy to stand but he didn't manage to find a nipple even though she was squirting gallons of milk at him! I'd gone and got some colostrum replacement and we'd bottled some of that into him prior to the vet arriving.
Carried on holding Amy and keeping him at her udder end but to no avail.
Another vet visit as I was getting worried as he was getting weaker and he's had the rest of the colostrum tubed in. Now need to leave them for a few hours, and then try to get him to suckle againat 5.30 6ish. If he won't the vet will come out and give Amy a mild sedative so we can milk her and then it will be bottle feeding, but as a last resort.
I feel emotionally shattered!
Amy is being fantastic with him but wants him at her head end.
I couldn't believe seeing two little ears in the paddock this morning and it's been downhill from there.
Thanks for your support guys!
Claire D has been fantastic, she's just gone home. Hopefully Sue will be back from work at about six.
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but is fine now ;D We ended up sedating Merry and giving her a shot of Oxy somthing (being blonde) to get her milk running as she hadn't started running milk.